and we had there in their balkan task force the cia, the defense intelligence agency, the nsa, the joint chiefs of staff regularly working together. sandy chaired a tenty's committee -- deputy's committee that kept all the agencies working together. we were committed to sharing information, not hoarding it, to try to reconcile the apparent inconsistencies and then to make good decisions. you know, i love all these shows, homeland and all that stuff. i love that stuff. [laughter] but the real world involves all these cia folks out there killing themselves to figure out what is really going on and how to get that back to the oil makers. to the policymakers. and what leon says is right, you have to be an active, not passive consumer of intelligence. otherwise, someone just assumes that your bandwidth has been choked in 1994 and '95, and you wind up like we were, not even having a meeting about rwanda. because you're so obsessed with all this other stuff. so the obligation of the policymakers is to be aggressive in this saying what we need. i also agree with the comments that were made in th